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Post by Captain Jack Harkness on Jul 16, 2009 9:26:13 GMT -4
OK so there's this part in the interview that makes me want too....(read on) LINK: It's great for Gwen, she saves the planet and becomes a mumTo me, I just want to pop her a good one right between the eyes. Harsh I know, but what if it were her character that was killed? Would she be still saying that? I'm sure she knows that there are tons of fans out there that wanted Jack and Ianto together.... Question: Do you think Torchwood was supposed to be from Gwens point of view? I always thought it was supposed to be all about Captain Jack and how he came back to save the world and out live all those he loved. Someone told me it was from Gwens point of view and if it is that really sucks.
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Post by ShaniLashes on Jul 17, 2009 3:34:01 GMT -4
Yes I kinda wanted to smack her after reading it. I mean her character lives and has a baby. Yeah Yeah we get the idea about Torchwood being dangerous and it was cemented with Tosh and Owen's deaths but I really feel now that Ianto's was pointless.
I think it was a little like the Buffyeffect she brought us into a world of vampires but as soon as others became involved it was a less about Buffy and more about the people around her in her life and how they help her fight the demons vampires and what not.
So no it started out that way but quickly involved more than just Gwen. Though it has always some how managed to make it all about Gwen.
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Post by Captain Jack Harkness on Jul 17, 2009 7:12:12 GMT -4
Wow, I so always thought wrong about Torchwood then. I always noticed she had alot of attention and stuff on screen, but I still thought it was all about Jack and such. I am disappointed now about that. =/ So they really know how to mess up a show.
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Post by ShaniLashes on Jul 17, 2009 14:48:57 GMT -4
Wow, I so always thought wrong about Torchwood then. I always noticed she had alot of attention and stuff on screen, but I still thought it was all about Jack and such. I am disappointed now about that. =/ So they really know how to mess up a show. Don't be I still think it's about Jack and refuse to believe otherwise A friend of mine used to call it the Gwen and other folks show until he fell off the couch on day ;D I told him the floor was uneven
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Post by Captain Jack Harkness on Jul 18, 2009 0:06:20 GMT -4
It still sucks though, it always seems she gets the center of attention and it annoyed me badly. They shoulda killed her off instead. I want to believe it's about Jack, but sometimes I have my doubts. Like it seems like he wants her just as much as she wants him and thats sickening. haha, lol thats funny Good one the floors uneven - well our floors are
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Post by ShaniLashes on Jul 19, 2009 16:40:52 GMT -4
I'm not a big fan of the whole back and forth thing between Gwen and Jack either. I'm more either go ahead and screw each other already or QUIT IT!! I hate it when they give a secondary character a load of attention. Yes she was important but not vitally. She is like Angel to Jack's Buffy not really important but important enough to be wanted and be near. Torchwood fans always have uneven floors ;D
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Post by Captain Jack Harkness on Jul 19, 2009 20:21:16 GMT -4
No, kidding. I'm surprised Rhys would even stay with her. Especially after that final episode in season three, I woulda dumped her fat arse
I don't even see her as being important I thought Tosh was the more important character
lol good one, all I know is she needs to be killed and have them bring back Ianto. I watched Doctor Who just a while ago and the 9th Doctor bought back alot of dead people with (spelling?) nanogenes, so why can't they use that on Ianto?
Lol, well where we live the houses suck big time, they are so old and crap. We have some sort of gross flooring too =/
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Post by ShaniLashes on Jul 20, 2009 13:34:53 GMT -4
No, kidding. I'm surprised Rhys would even stay with her. Especially after that final episode in season three, I woulda dumped her fat arse I don't even see her as being important I thought Tosh was the more important character lol good one, all I know is she needs to be killed and have them bring back Ianto. I watched Doctor Who just a while ago and the 9th Doctor bought back alot of dead people with (spelling?) nanogenes, so why can't they use that on Ianto? Lol, well where we live the houses suck big time, they are so old and crap. We have some sort of gross flooring too =/ I sooo agree Tosh was so much more important than Gwen nothing wouldn't have got done without her and Ianto. They were the super tough sticky glue that held the team together without Gwen and Jack. I'm sure without a doubt that back when Jack ran off with the Doctor in S1 Tosh and Ianto could have ran the team smoothly if they had enough confidence in themselves. Gwen didn't have to be the heart of the team it could have been someone else less annoying like Martha or Andy. More PC Andy is a good thing plus he remembers to be human first! Thank God it's fictional! I fear a load of from now and the future fangirls would bash the Doctor over the head and stuff him into a room on the Tardis and crash land back to that moment to save Ianto and kill Gwen. I love Rus but honestly trying to make her into Rose just kills the whole d**n thing. In the end it was a little like a darker JE for me. The good people get killed and Gwen is left with her one true love though she secretly wants Jack who went only Russell knows where. Sounds very Doctor Whoish as of late except not one single viewer is happy with the ending. I'm really happy for Eve but i'm a little pissed off that Gwen has a good life in the end of it all. Tosh wanted marriage and well maybe not kids but she wanted something meaningful in her life so did Ianto. I'm a little put off and hope there's some kind of Ianto related plot in S4 if they do one. I thought about a fic in which Ianto isn't really dead but haven't hatched out all the details of a good opening yet. I wish my floors were okay their liveable. They need resurfacing and maybe a little touch up and I swear the living room and dining room are uneven but with extra support things usually sit straight.
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Post by Captain Jack Harkness on Jul 20, 2009 14:48:42 GMT -4
Oh, no kidding. I agree with the Tosh thing. I wish she had more confidence. Gwen acts as if she knows everything, she acts as if shes the power of Torchwood. Shes dumb and annoying. Besides she doesn't really know much. Oh what she knows how to hold a gun and not even that good cause Jack taught her in that one episode(can't remember the name of it). So she doesn't really know a thing. I find her rather pointless of being there, except trying to ruin peoples relationships. Tosh and Ianto were the most important team members, they knew the stuff, they did the crap work. I think Gwen was a selfsih pregnant dog too when she slept with Owen too. She knew full well that Tosh liked him and if she considered Tosh a friend she shouldn't have slept with him. that selfish cow. I so woulda loved Andy to have been on the team. I think he would have been more interesting there. They could save Ianto. I think they should and have it where Gwen dies, now that I would want to see for sure. I don't get it really, I mean here I was thinking that this was the best thing ever and I even thought that the writers liked the whole Jack and Ianto thing. So why in the world would they kill off the best thing. They really shoulda killed Gwen. I mean now what, if Torchwood comes back will it suddenly be an all straight sorta show, I loved the bi & gay stuff and all that. It was different than our usual tv shows. Oh don't go there with Rose, I found her irritating when David became the Doctor, not so much with the first guy. But she was like all clingy and annoying as hell. And Gwen will so be her, and most likely worse after she has that baby. Pretending she loves Rhys and pine after Jack every second at work. She acts as if shes some beauty queen. (eww) I mean I am sure that Eve is great, but what she said in the interview was annoying and sounder rather selfish. I mean does she not recall they bought Owen back from the dead. But her character Gwen is far beyond annoying. Shes a fairly good actress, just not any good for Torchwood for sure. Maybe if they made the character less annoying and pining after every man on the show she would be alot better. I would have loved to see Tosh happy with someone before she died. I didn't find that really fair she didn't really get to be that happy. I really hope so too. I read on another forum that someone mentioned they could always do it where Jack was dreaming the whole thing and let us have that Jack and Ianto relationship we were promised. If they really thought about it they could do it. After all it's scifi they can do anything. I was thinking maybe the Doctor could bring him back, although I don't recall when the new one comes on, but I thought that David as the Doctor can do the one thing they aren't supposed to do something like what was it mess with what happened or whatever, and bring Ianto back and then he can regenerate into his new self. I was thinking of little fics, but dang I am way too lazy to even write one up. I did make a role-play forum a Torchwood one where Jack gets Ianto back. I so can't role-play as Jack and not have my Ianto ;D Omg our new place sucks theres a few areas that are like wicked off. It sucks too cause its wicked tiny and right now we live in this fairly good sized apartment, then we are being down graded (as I call it) to a shoebox I can't remember our floor its something like linoleum or it is and that kind of flooring sucks. Espcially when you put some sort of oil on it to make it shine. Gotta love floors that are off balance, the room where I have the computer is off balance and the computer looks like its titling more to one side =/ so anything I do online looks rather odd. oh not sure if I asked this here I wonder a few things when the hub blew up what about them bodies in the cold storage - like Gray since he wasn't dead only frozen or whatever it was that Jack did to him. And then the bird thing (spelling?) Mwfanny?
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Post by ShaniLashes on Jul 20, 2009 19:11:41 GMT -4
Gwen a beauty queen? *HA* She must has slipped on an uneven floor that had a little baby sick on it. Not sure I would even want Gwen back after the baby. She'd probably be inclined to believe that she s***ts roses and the entire universe revolves around her. Well she acts like that now so times 2 then. I'd grab a large blunt object if I were Rhys and put her out of her misery right then and there. I feel so bad for him she's constantly hurting him. I loved the line she delivered to Jack about her marriage not starting off with secrets. So did she confess to Rhys that she had an affair with Owen and broke her friends heart then told Rhys all about it before she retconned him. If she did would she retcon him again? So much for not keeping secrets. Impossible to picture but Rhys or Owen hooks up with Tosh after coming back from the dead by way of Gwen's death. While Jack and Ianto order pizza and do the X-rated. Why push Jack and Ianto together if they were just going to rip them apart? I wanted them to be together because they both seemed so hurt that they could only bring each other great comfort. Like Tosh and Owen but alas that never did happen. Even if he was a rapey bastard he started out a good man and Tosh had to believe that he still was a good man. When I think of the team as a whole I can't help but think things ran better without Gwen even with Susie killing people. Maybe if Jack had retconned her on the roof instead of asking her to join Tosh, Ianto, Owen and Susie would still be alive. Can't say I hate Susie a whole lot because I really didn't know her much except for the killing. I'm soooo glad someone agrees with me about Rose. I really didn't like much of S2 of DW. I really don't agree with people trying to defend her in Doomsday. The Doctor sent her to Pete's world thinking it would lessen the hurt for them both but like the trainwreck she was she came back and hurt him further. She ruined all of S3 by being a memory that Martha was constantly compared to even the Master and Jack had to bring her up. With Jack actually having a reason to though. Then she came back in S4 and wasn't happy that she got her very own David clone. I'd be happy. I completely forgot about the bodies! Just like Gray some of them were just stored so I really wonder what happened to them. Can you really imagine being put in cold storage to save you only to be blown up later. That really puts a damper on saying you I don't remember seeing Myfawny *I can't remember the correct spelling either* anywhere either maybe she left like Jack when Ianto died. She loved him too or maybe she's just waiting to poop on Gwen. I hope she isn't dead she hardly got any screen time at all. I really considered her the team's or Ianto's personal prehistoric pet. My boyfriend *well soon to be husband he just moved in* and I live in this really big old house with my mum and he looked at my bookshelf the other day and said that's not straight. I took a random copy of a book I didn't like and corrected it. What's odd is that something that's uneven if you take it and put it in the dining room or the living room it looks perfectly straight. We have linoleum in the kitchen and it looks kinda tacky and strange and only carpeting in mum's room and the dining room. Weird office like carpeting. The toilet looks off kilter but we put a crooked shelf over it and it creates a kinda straight illusion until you get up close. We're looking for a new place with more space for everyone and for the dogs to run around. Even if it isn't in america my family's always been real flexible.
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Post by Captain Jack Harkness on Jul 24, 2009 16:40:53 GMT -4
Gwen a beauty queen? *HA* She must has slipped on an uneven floor that had a little baby sick on it. Not sure I would even want Gwen back after the baby. She'd probably be inclined to believe that she s***ts roses and the entire universe revolves around her. Well she acts like that now so times 2 then. I'd grab a large blunt object if I were Rhys and put her out of her misery right then and there. I feel so bad for him she's constantly hurting him. I loved the line she delivered to Jack about her marriage not starting off with secrets. So did she confess to Rhys that she had an affair with Owen and broke her friends heart then told Rhys all about it before she retconned him. If she did would she retcon him again? So much for not keeping secrets. Impossible to picture but Rhys or Owen hooks up with Tosh after coming back from the dead by way of Gwen's death. While Jack and Ianto order pizza and do the X-rated. Why push Jack and Ianto together if they were just going to rip them apart? I wanted them to be together because they both seemed so hurt that they could only bring each other great comfort. Like Tosh and Owen but alas that never did happen. Even if he was a rapey bastard he started out a good man and Tosh had to believe that he still was a good man. When I think of the team as a whole I can't help but think things ran better without Gwen even with Susie killing people. Maybe if Jack had retconned her on the roof instead of asking her to join Tosh, Ianto, Owen and Susie would still be alive. Can't say I hate Susie a whole lot because I really didn't know her much except for the killing. I'm soooo glad someone agrees with me about Rose. I really didn't like much of S2 of DW. I really don't agree with people trying to defend her in Doomsday. The Doctor sent her to Pete's world thinking it would lessen the hurt for them both but like the trainwreck she was she came back and hurt him further. She ruined all of S3 by being a memory that Martha was constantly compared to even the Master and Jack had to bring her up. With Jack actually having a reason to though. Then she came back in S4 and wasn't happy that she got her very own David clone. I'd be happy. I completely forgot about the bodies! Just like Gray some of them were just stored so I really wonder what happened to them. Can you really imagine being put in cold storage to save you only to be blown up later. That really puts a damper on saying you I don't remember seeing Myfawny *I can't remember the correct spelling either* anywhere either maybe she left like Jack when Ianto died. She loved him too or maybe she's just waiting to poop on Gwen. I hope she isn't dead she hardly got any screen time at all. I really considered her the team's or Ianto's personal prehistoric pet. My boyfriend *well soon to be husband he just moved in* and I live in this really big old house with my mum and he looked at my bookshelf the other day and said that's not straight. I took a random copy of a book I didn't like and corrected it. What's odd is that something that's uneven if you take it and put it in the dining room or the living room it looks perfectly straight. We have linoleum in the kitchen and it looks kinda tacky and strange and only carpeting in mum's room and the dining room. Weird office like carpeting. The toilet looks off kilter but we put a crooked shelf over it and it creates a kinda straight illusion until you get up close. We're looking for a new place with more space for everyone and for the dogs to run around. Even if it isn't in america my family's always been real flexible. Slipped flat on her face.... OMG I so can't picture her working for Torchwood after that baby, besides if she did she would be so freakin whiney. I think she already thinks the universe revolves around her and she most likely believes she does nuts roses too. Oh, yeah that whole secrets bit, thats just crap. She doesn't deserve Rhys at all. Gosh he can do so much better than that gapped tooth cow. Heck if Rhys ever killed Gwen he could retcon himself so he would have forgotten what happened and maybe get away with the murder too ;D Yeah I would have perferred Tosh with someone, over Gwen at least any day. I think Gwen should have had the nuts relationships and Tosh should have been the one that was happy. Oh right that was harsh they did that. I mean here they were promising us all more Ianto and Jack th, push Jack and Ianto together - tease us fans then bam! tear them apart. I think if Gwen weren't around Tosh and Owen would have most likely ended up together, at least sooner or later. I think it would have taken some time for them to tell eachother how they really felt. Yeah didn't care for Gwen joining the team, she was annoying from the get go. I thought the whole Suzie thing made Torchwood work more sorta thing. So I liked that whole thing where she tested alien objects and killed people. That made it more interesting. I think it would have been great if they killed Gwen when Suzie was bought back to life, and the old team would have been together again. Oh god I hated Rose so much, she was fine with the 9th Doctor and thats it, after that she acted as if she was the only one the Doctor ever travelled with and she was like some goddess. She was irritatiting like hell. I so wanted to punch her when she wasn't happy with that Doctor clone, it's like you dumb cow be happy you got a part of him. *punch* That was annoying, I felt bad for Martha, I mean Rose this and Rose that. I would have had to punch someone if I were Martha. Maybe Myfawny? is gonna come back since Ianto died and kill Gwen, shes just waiting till she has that baby, Myfawny doesn't want to hurt and innocent child you know I loved that bird? it was a part of the team or what did Jack call it the guard dog or something like that. I would do anything to live anywhere but where I live now. Thats funny, I so should try that here then, crooked areas all around the house. I will have to find something to make it look like everything is balanced. I am so annoyed, finally we got everything in the new place, although I had to rid of alot of my storage cabinets I ad dvds, books and cds inside of. So I am totally bummed out. Everyone tells me I have tons of nuts and well I do in a way, most of its books, cds and dvds. This was the worst move ever, the movers were complete morons from hell =/ Hehe no more getting up close to things that are crooked where you live
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Post by ShaniLashes on Jul 24, 2009 19:34:17 GMT -4
Myfanwy *knew we were close* would eat Gwen with the aid of some much needed water to wash her down while the baby claps silently with a smile. "Death to bad mummy!" Maybe Rhys will get his wish and name the cute little lad Edward after all. For some strange reason I can picture Ianto dancing around singing Ding Dong the Witch is Dead afterwards. He's glad he can finally have Jack to himself. If only they could go back and not kill Susie so many times:) If I was Susie it would have been shoot first and ask questions later or chat about it later. I could easily see Tosh with Rhys if she met him after things didn't work out with Owen. Both very caring and devoted hopelessly but devoted none the same. I've never seen to more deserving characters in a big sci-fi series before they're have been a few though. S2 had some much promise for everyone excluding Gwen. Gwen would have married Rhys and had a baby with or without Jack and Torchwood so now big whoop when she showed up with the ring on her finger. Ianto and Jack were so much closer than they were in S1. They actually had a real relationship thing going on between them. And the conversation in KKBB made it seem like something was finally going to happen between Tosh and Owen. Martha came in fully qualified with loads of alien experience. It all was going to be huge and so great. I liked that even after Owen was brought back to life Tosh still loved and cared for him when she could have easily got another boyfriend out of the freezer. No offense to Tommy what so ever! I tell ya Gwen is poison! Everything she touches rots in some kind of way. Even Rhys was tainted by here in away now that he knows about Torchwood and the aliens and stuff. Mom cried when Ianto died she said Gareth is a brilliant actor much like Gary Oldman and Alan Rickman and she loves them. I do too. I felt Martha was a little bit slighted by the writers in S4 of DW. Like they were in some kind of a hurry and wrote her in at the last minute. Though she had some strond parts in the Sontaran Stratagem and The Poison Sky but the Doctor's Daughter was just baaad. She had gone beyond the Doctor why couldn't they bring that out she wouldn't have over shadowed him or Donna. She did shine in TSE and JE for the moments she was on screen. I kinda always thought that she would be more kick butt though when she came on Who since Freema knows martial arts instead of a rebound to Rose. I hope Rose never comes back again though because I'd hate to kill Russ with a Rose doll....really would hate to but for the love of good sci-fi *insert evil laugh here* I could never part with my books and movies never! Especially my books. I'm a bookwormy nerd. I admit it> My friends have call me Hermione ever since the first Harry Potter.
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Post by Captain Jack Harkness on Jul 24, 2009 21:31:54 GMT -4
Myfanwy *knew we were close* would eat Gwen with the aid of some much needed water to wash her down while the baby claps silently with a smile. "Death to bad mummy!" Maybe Rhys will get his wish and name the cute little lad Edward after all. For some strange reason I can picture Ianto dancing around singing Ding Dong the Witch is Dead afterwards. He's glad he can finally have Jack to himself. If only they could go back and not kill Susie so many times:) If I was Susie it would have been shoot first and ask questions later or chat about it later. I could easily see Tosh with Rhys if she met him after things didn't work out with Owen. Both very caring and devoted hopelessly but devoted none the same. I've never seen to more deserving characters in a big sci-fi series before they're have been a few though. S2 had some much promise for everyone excluding Gwen. Gwen would have married Rhys and had a baby with or without Jack and Torchwood so now big whoop when she showed up with the ring on her finger. Ianto and Jack were so much closer than they were in S1. They actually had a real relationship thing going on between them. And the conversation in KKBB made it seem like something was finally going to happen between Tosh and Owen. Martha came in fully qualified with loads of alien experience. It all was going to be huge and so great. I liked that even after Owen was brought back to life Tosh still loved and cared for him when she could have easily got another boyfriend out of the freezer. No offense to Tommy what so ever! I tell ya Gwen is poison! Everything she touches rots in some kind of way. Even Rhys was tainted by here in away now that he knows about Torchwood and the aliens and stuff. Mom cried when Ianto died she said Gareth is a brilliant actor much like Gary Oldman and Alan Rickman and she loves them. I do too. I felt Martha was a little bit slighted by the writers in S4 of DW. Like they were in some kind of a hurry and wrote her in at the last minute. Though she had some strond parts in the Sontaran Stratagem and The Poison Sky but the Doctor's Daughter was just baaad. She had gone beyond the Doctor why couldn't they bring that out she wouldn't have over shadowed him or Donna. She did shine in TSE and JE for the moments she was on screen. I kinda always thought that she would be more kick butt though when she came on Who since Freema knows martial arts instead of a rebound to Rose. I hope Rose never comes back again though because I'd hate to kill Russ with a Rose doll....really would hate to but for the love of good sci-fi *insert evil laugh here* I could never part with my books and movies never! Especially my books. I'm a bookwormy nerd. I admit it> My friends have call me Hermione ever since the first Harry Potter. Haha, that would be brilliant. Edward for good ole Rhys. Yay way to go Mwfanwy(?) and I sure hope he/she enjoyed Space toothed Gwen with that BBQ sauce he/she loves so much Babies first word : Mummy gone gone, bye bye mummy That I can picture. He would be like lets have sex and be all over Jack to comfort poor Jack for losing a dumb team member OMG, no kidding I so thought she woulda done that since she killed other people with the alien things. So why not kill Gwen and play around with her life - shall I bring the hag back or leave her dead *scratches head for a few days* Yeah it sucks though how the stupid people on tv get all the happiness and then characters like Tosh and Rhys get no one that really truly cares for them. I am so pissed at how I read all this stuff and heard alot of it too about how the writers loved the stuff they wrote with Jack and Ianto and then bam they take it all away. I mean are they playing head games with the serious die hard fans? Thats really harsh for them to tell us all that then take it away like we're nothing. Hello we bought the stuff that was sold, we watched the series, we fell in love with the characters and all that. I hate her for doing that too on that episode with the ring and how she made that annoying face when Jack felt that ring. Its like she was rubbing it in that I am happy (not really I am playing with you Jack love playing with your feelings) I hated how she took over Torchwood as the leader while Jack was away, that was crap, you would think no matter how shy or whatever Ianto and Tosh were they would have been second in charge since they were there much longer than Gwen. In season 2 they so coulda showed more of the whole Jack and Ianto stuff too. I feel as if we were all ripped off by this thing how they made such a big deal about having man(Jack)/man(Ianto) on tv and here they are pretty much (or are) pushing the d**n woman(Gwen)/man(Jack) together. It's bull to me and I hate it all. I mean I won't give up on Torchwood even if it comes back without a great team. I will watch for John Barrowman still no matter what. I mean its not as if hes writing the show itself so can't blame him. But all I know is I won't enjoy it that much since Ianto is dead and there will be no Jack/Ianto. Yes, and I loved how they got closer too in season 2 and then in 3. But still not enough for me. (sorry I am greedy on wanting Jack and Ianto) It was a great season with Martha and such too. They could have killed Gwen off by then or even have her leave Torchwood then too. I mean they had the perfect team with Tosh, Martha, Ianto and Jack and still somewhat alive Owen. Gwen was just this worthless thing and in the way. Something should have happened or so they should have let something finally happen between Tosh and Owen before their deaths. I think that wasn't really fair either that they killed Tosh without her having at least one really good chance at Owen. Yeah you could actually see she did care for Owen way more than Gwen ever did. Yes, thats sad. He will always have that knowledge of Torchwood and have to keep that crap a secret cause of dumb Gwen. She seriously ruins things she destroys everything she comes in contact with. Next she will slowly ruin Jack and then there will be no more Jack. Aww, thats sad she cried. Yeah I agree he is a wicked talented actor. OMG they are great actors. It really sucks though how things like this happens on shows where they kill a character off before the fans can really get to know more about them. I really hate when they do that sorta thing. It's really not fair to the fans. Martha didn't really get fair play on screen, in my opinion. I mean when she had the small chance to shine as Martha Jones someone would bring up dumb Rose or the episode would be complete crap and it didn't suit her really. I don't think that was all that fair. Haha, kill him with a Rose doll. I will so be in on that too cause Rose sucks and he needs to write her off completely off of Doctor Who so she can never ever return - give this new Doctor a Rose break - he doesn't need that attention getting dumb arse annoying him like she did the 10th Doctor. Yeah sad thing with less storage I have to keep my books now in storage bins cause I lost storage things to keep them in. I am so annoyed by that. Its like we go from a 3 bedroom apart we lived in for 16 years and some odd months then we get stuck in this 2 bedroom place thats small and well we're just about sitting on top of one another. I will never give any of my books or dvds or even cds away. But I do have to keep most of them packed away. Which sucks and I am like really bummed over it all too. Hermione *snort* thats cute
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